Colbert and Zimbardo and Sunday School

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Colbert guest Philip Zimbardo says God was wrong, Lucifer was right. Stephen Colbert smacks him down, and gets a big ovation from the audience.

The whole thing is interesting, but this exchange is at the end, starting at the end, with 1:00 left.

ZIMBARDO: "If God was into reconciliation, he would have said 'I made a mistake.' God created hell. Paradoxically, it was God who created Hell as a place to put Lucifer and the fallen angels, and had he not created Hell, then evil would not exist."

COLBERT: "Evil exists because of the disobedience of Satan. God gave Satan, the angels, and man, free will; Satan used his free will and abused it by not obeying authority; hell was created by Satan's disobedience to God and his purposeful removal from God's love, which is what Hell is: removing yourself from God's love."

ZIMBARDO: "Wow."

COLBERT: "You send yourself there, God does not send you there."

ZIMBARDO: "Obviously you learned well in Sunday School."

COLBERT: "I teach Sunday School, motherf****r."

Colbert knows his Christian theology. slashdot.org

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Well, he's not kidding: he *does* teach Sunday school!

Matt Langdon said:

You can read Phil's follow-up on my blog, the Hero Workshop. It was certainly quite an interview...

pudge Author Profile Page said:

Matt: thanks, that's interesting. I don't know much about Phil's work; I do know he's way off-base about God being wrong (as Colbert proved, he misunderstands why free will and hell exist in Christian philosophy), and I think his infamous prison experiment was so fraught with methodological error that it means absolutely nothing.

I do agree with his point about being a "hero-in waiting," though. It's a fine philosophy, and one I share. I disagree slightly with "socio-centric" versus "ego-centric" however; the way I view it is that we should recognize that our own self-benefit results from a thriving society. The ego remains the focus, but the means is the benefit of society at large. We are at root selfish creatures, and we can't change that; but we can change how we perceive what is, and is not, a benefit to our selves.

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